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When and how to start coding with kids

Episode #478, published Wed, Sep 25, 2024, recorded Thu, Aug 8, 2024

Do you have kids? Maybe nieces and nephews? Or maybe you work in a school environment? Maybe it's just friend's who know you're a programmer and ask about how they should go about introducing programming concepts with them. Anna-Lena Popkes is back on the show to share her research on when and how to teach kids programming. We spend the second half of the episode talking about concrete apps and toys you might consider for each age group. Plus, some of these things are fun for adults too. ;)

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Episode Deep Dive

1. Why Teach Kids to Code?

  • Reasons and Benefits
    • Encourages computational thinking and problem-solving skills.
    • Fosters creativity by allowing kids to build games, stories, and more.
    • Develops perseverance—kids learn to iterate on challenges and overcome obstacles.

2. Development Stages for Teaching Programming

  • Ages 0 to 4

    • Very early stage: kids develop motor and vision skills; not ready for complex coding concepts.
    • Focus on playful, screen-free exploration and simple problem-solving (e.g., breaking down tasks like guiding a toy through a maze).
  • Ages 4 to 6

    • Can begin exploring basic sequencing with physical toys that teach algorithmic ideas:

      • BeeBot (robot bee you program with directional buttons)

      • Robot Turtles (a board game that uses simple card commands for movement)

  • Ages 6 to 9

    • Greater focus on visual programming languages and simple robotics:

      • Scratch Jr. (tablet-based app, puzzle-piece style commands)

      • Cubelets (magnetic robotic cubes; can be used at slightly older ages too)

  • Ages 9 to 12

    • Kids can handle more complex visual tools and even basic text-based coding:

      • Scratch (full version for more advanced projects)

      • Blockly (Google’s foundational visual coding approach)

      • BBC micro:bit (affordable microcontroller; can code in MakeCode or Python)

  • Ages 10+ / 11+

    • Moving toward textual programming (Python, etc.) and more robust hardware:

      • Zumi (self-driving car kit that supports Python or Blockly, plus machine learning)

      • Raspberry Pi (a full computer in a small board, great for learning Linux + Python)


3. Coding Tools and Platforms for Older Kids (Text-Based)

  • Code Combat
    • Game-based approach teaching Python or JavaScript in a fun RPG setting.
    • Heavy autocomplete to reduce syntax errors and frustration.
  • Code Club (Raspberry Pi Foundation)
    • Offers structured lessons transitioning from Scratch to Python.
    • codeclub.org/en (international versions available)
  • Hedy
    • Gradual programming approach based on Python.
    • Starts with almost zero syntax requirements, then progressively adds complexity.
  • Anvil
    • Drag-and-drop web app builder that uses Python for both front-end and back-end logic.
    • Simplifies the creation of real, shareable web apps.
  • Adafruit & CircuitPython (Mentioned in the Hardware Context)

4. Practical Guidance for Parents and Educators

  • Focus on Fun: Encourage play and experimentation, whether with board games, robots, or code challenges.
  • Screen-Free Options: Especially for younger children (e.g., Robot Turtles, Cubelets in offline mode).
  • Gradual Learning: Visual coding first, then move to textual coding as typing and problem-solving skills mature.
  • Praise Persistence: Recognize effort, not just results, to build kids’ confidence and enjoyment.
  • Follow Their Interest: If they love games, choose game-based coding; if they’re curious about robots, choose robotics kits.

Overall Takeaway

Teaching kids to code successfully involves matching age-appropriate tools with hands-on, playful experiences. By starting with robotics toys or block-based languages—then moving toward more sophisticated projects in Python or other text-based environments—kids gain computational thinking, problem-solving skills, and a love of learning that will serve them well into the future.

Links from the show

Anna-Lena: alpopkes.com

Magical universe repo: github.com
Machine learning basics repo: github.com

PyData recording "when and how to start coding with kids": youtube.com

Robots and devices
Bee Bot: terrapinlogo.com
Cubelets: modrobotics.com
BBC Microbit: microbit.org
RaspberryPi: raspberrypi.com
Adafruit Qualia ESP32 for CircuitPython: adafruit.com
Zumi: robolink.com

Board games
Think Fun Robot Turtles Board Game: amazon.com

Visual programming:
Scratch Jr.: scratchjr.org
Scratch: scratch.org
Blocky: google.com
Microbit's Make Code: microbit.org
Code Club: codeclubworld.org

Textual programming
Code Combat: codecombat.com
Hedy: hedycode.com
Anvil: anvil.works

Coding classes / summer camps (US)
Portland Community College Summer Teen Program: pcc.edu
Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com
Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm

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