Cinder - Specialized Python that Flies
While it's not a general purpose runtime we can all pick up and use, it contains many powerful features and optimizations that may make their way back to mainline Python.
We welcome Dino Viehland to dive into Cinder.
Episode Deep Dive
Guest Introduction and Background
Dino Viehland (from Instagram, previously Microsoft on IronPython) is a seasoned Python developer focused on high-performance runtimes and large-scale Python deployments. He began his programming journey by modifying and running BBS software in C and eventually moved into the Python world through his work on IronPython. Today, Dino is part of the team that built Cinder, a performance-oriented fork of CPython 3.8 used at Instagram. His efforts center on making Python run more efficiently in large-scale production environments, sharing innovations that often lead back into mainline Python.
What to Know If You're New to Python
Before digging into runtime optimizations and JIT compilers, it’s useful to understand a few core Python ideas such as:
- The CPython runtime is the default Python implementation and heavily reliant on reference counting for memory management.
- Async and await let Python efficiently handle I/O or network-bound tasks by suspending and resuming them rather than blocking a single thread.
- Typing in Python can be dynamic but also enhanced by adding type hints (
: str
,: int
, etc.) to improve code clarity and tool support. - Python’s ecosystem and open-source nature means you can explore specialized runtimes like Cinder or external tools without rewriting your entire codebase.
Key Points and Takeaways
- Cinder: A Specialized CPython Fork This fork, built and used by Instagram, focuses on boosting CPython performance for large-scale, async-driven workloads. Although not fully general-purpose, many Cinder features have influenced or been incorporated into core Python over time.
- Links / Tools:
- GitHub repo: github.com/facebookincubator/cinder
- Links / Tools:
- Method-at-a-Time JIT Compilation Cinder introduces a JIT that compiles individual methods into machine code. By doing so before worker processes fork, Instagram saves on memory overhead and speeds up critical parts of the code. While it’s optimized for Instagram’s environment, the JIT concept has broader relevance for Python performance.
- Links / Tools:
- ASM JIT (AsmJit) (mentioned conceptually as a low-level codegen library)
- Links / Tools:
- Immortal Instances for Memory Sharing Immortal instances prevent refcount changes on certain objects. This is valuable under a Linux
fork()
model where changes to global or shared objects cause extra copies in child processes. By marking them “immortal,” Cinder reclaims a ~5% performance win through reduced memory churn.- Links / Tools:
- Strict Modules Python modules can be tricky if they have unintended side effects during import. Strict modules enforce side-effect-free imports, improving reliability and paving the way for future ideas like safe hot-reloading. This also reduces unexpected state changes between imports in large codebases.
- Links / Tools:
- Eager Coroutine Evaluation Standard
async
functions create coroutines that run when awaited. Cinder’s eager evaluation runs the coroutine up to the firstawait
immediately, avoiding overhead for trivial or short tasks that might never truly suspend. This can yield major speedups in certain async flows.- Links / Tools:
- Inline Caching / Shadow Bytecode Cinder uses specialized bytecode to cache the results of attribute lookups, function calls, and more. Known as “shadow bytecode,” it cuts overhead by bypassing repeated dictionary lookups if the object type hasn’t changed. Python 3.11 introduces a similar optimization, hinting at alignment with Cinder’s approach.
- Links / Tools:
- Static Python: Leveraging Type Annotations By analyzing Python’s optional type hints, Cinder’s compiler can emit specialized bytecode (or lower-level operations) for faster execution. Similar to projects like Cython or mypyc, Static Python offers big wins, especially for functions that heavily rely on typed arguments and smaller primitive types.
- Links / Tools:
- Redeploying Instagram Every 10 Minutes Instagram’s massive Django-based codebase re-deploys roughly every 10 minutes. This frequent deployment model shortens feedback loops and helps isolate regressions. Cinder’s design specifically optimizes for this environment, ensuring quick reloads with minimal memory bloat.
- Links / Tools:
- Django project
- uWSGI docs (underlies Instagram’s server model)
- Links / Tools:
- Memory Overhead and Fork Model When a master process spawns multiple worker processes, any mutation to shared memory triggers copy-on-write overhead. Cinder’s approach—optimizing refcount changes and freezing certain objects—keeps memory usage lower, enabling more child processes on the same hardware.
- Links / Tools:
- Collaboration with Mainline Python Much of Cinder’s inline caching, JIT insights, and async improvements are heading toward or already merging into CPython (e.g., Python 3.11’s adaptive interpreter). Dino stressed that open communication and dedicated resources for upstreaming help ensure everyone benefits from Instagram’s research.
Interesting Quotes and Stories
- Dino on discovering Python from IronPython: “I knew all sorts of weird corner cases about the language before I actually knew how to write a function normally.”
- On frequent redeploys: “It’s a massive codebase, but we push changes every 10 minutes. That means you aren’t rolling in six months of changes at once—finding a root cause is way easier!”
- On optimizing coroutines: “If the function returns before the first
await
, there’s no sense spinning up a full event loop call—just do it now.”
Key Definitions and Terms
- Fork and Exec: A Unix process creation method. A master process spawns child processes by copying memory pages (shared until written).
- JIT (Just-In-Time) Compilation: Dynamically compiles code into machine code at runtime, potentially speeding up hot code paths.
- Immortal Instances: Objects in memory marked as never needing refcount modifications, preserving shared pages in forked processes.
- Strict Modules: Python modules guaranteed not to mutate or rely on mutable global state during import.
- Shadow Bytecode / Inline Caching: Extra or modified bytecode that caches type or attribute lookups to skip repeated dictionary lookups.
- Static Python: A compilation strategy that leverages Python type annotations to generate specialized, more efficient operations.
Learning Resources
Here are some ways to deepen your Python knowledge:
- Python for Absolute Beginners: Ideal if you’re new to Python and want a solid foundation in Python’s core concepts, syntax, and best practices.
- Python Memory Management and Tips: If you found the discussion about refcounting and copy-on-write intriguing, this course takes you deeper into how Python manages memory and how to optimize it.
Overall Takeaway
From BBS hacking days to large-scale Django deployments at Instagram, Dino’s story emphasizes how Python’s flexibility can meet even the toughest performance demands. Cinder is a testament to that adaptability—showing that a specialized, JIT-enhanced Python fork can both serve a massive production workload and help improve CPython itself. Whether you run a global service or a local app, following Cinder’s approach—exploring faster imports, memory optimizations, inline caching, and typed performance tricks—can inspire new ways to push your Python projects to higher efficiency and scalability.
Links from the show
Cinder Python Runtime: github.com/facebookincubator
Dino's PyCon talk: youtube.com
IronPython: ironpython.net
Sam Gross's NoGil work: github.com/colesbury/nogil
Pyjion: trypyjion.com
uWSGI: uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io
Configuring uWSGI at Bloomberg: techatbloomberg.com
Locust perf testing: locust.io
Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com
Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm
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